‘Right now we’re going to find meaning in community.’

Alice L Driver

is an investigative journalist and the author of Life and Death of the American Worker: The Immigrants Taking on America’s Largest Meatpacking Company.¹

This newsletter includes the complete audio of an interview I recorded with Alice on Thursday, February 20. (To listen in your favorite podcast app, search for “Reframe Your Inbox.”)

The.Ink

previously published a written and edited version of our conversation. Head here to read it: “How the sausage gets made.”

How the sausage gets made

1. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Life-and-Death-of-the-American-Worker/Alice-Driver/9781668078822